P&m Echo, no stereo Options

[dave pine]

p&m echo in not outputting in stereo in dp 8.01 in mountain lion

[Nick]

p&m echo in not outputting in stereo in dp 8.01 in mountain lion

Hello Dave,

The signal is mono only?

If you flip the "ping-pong" toggle to on does that give you a left then right signal or is it mono as well?

There have been some strange things happening with Audio units as Apple has been changing the game repeatedly and not documented it very well.

Is it possible to try the VST versions with your DP8?

They are more of a sure bet right now, we're not alone with this problem, other developer friends have been talking to us about the same problems occurring for them.

Best Regards,

Nick


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[GeoffSix]

Hi there,

I'm running Logic Pro 9 on OSX 10.6.8.

It appears the 'Mono > Stereo' version of Echoflex isn't functioning as it should. the 'Ping Pong' switch makes no difference, the signal stays in Mono. The 'Stereo' version of Echoflex however works as intended.
The above is also true of the 'Dimension 3D', Digital Reverb, Plate and quite possibly all the P&M audio units.

Great plugins though

Thanks Geoff

Hello Dave,

The signal is mono only?

If you flip the "ping-pong" toggle to on does that give you a left then right signal or is it mono as well?

There have been some strange things happening with Audio units as Apple has been changing the game repeatedly and not documented it very well.

Is it possible to try the VST versions with your DP8?

They are more of a sure bet right now, we're not alone with this problem, other developer friends have been talking to us about the same problems occurring for them.

Best Regards,

Nick


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[GeoffSix]

Hi there,

I'm running Logic Pro 9 on OSX 10.6.8.

It appears the 'Mono > Stereo' version of Echoflex isn't functioning as it should. the 'Ping Pong' switch makes no difference, the signal stays in Mono. The 'Stereo' version of Echoflex however works as intended.
The above is also true of the 'Dimension 3D', Digital Reverb, Plate and quite possibly all the P&M audio units.

Great plugins though

Thanks Geoff

Sorry I should clarify - all the P&M plug ins that are 'Mono>Stereo' configuration.

Geoff

[GeoffSix]

Sorry I should clarify - all the P&M plug ins that are 'Mono>Stereo' configuration.

Geoff

Problem occurs in both 32 and 64bit versions.

[DontCrack]

Sorry I should clarify - all the P&M plug ins that are 'Mono>Stereo' configuration.

Geoff

Hello Geoff,

I will pass this on to our developers to see what they say, they have DP and Logic.

I don't have them at hand where I am right now, so I have to ask the following.

When you send from a mono track via a mono send in DP or Logic to a Stereo AUX, I presume it goes through this 'Mono/Stereo configuration, right?

The only reason I ask is I believe in ProTools I can send from a mono track via a mono send to a stereo Aux and the signal from P&M (or any other plug-in) plays out in stereo.

Is this what you are doing and the return is in Mono?

Or

Is it when you insert a stereo P&M on the SAME channel that has a mono source playing back?

In ProTools I believe that is not allowed or at least I haven't tired it, (old engineering habits die slowly)

Please get back to me to clarify this.

Best Regards,

Nick

[GeoffSix]

Hello Geoff,

I will pass this on to our developers to see what they say, they have DP and Logic.

I don't have them at hand where I am right now, so I have to ask the following.

When you send from a mono track via a mono send in DP or Logic to a Stereo AUX, I presume it goes through this 'Mono/Stereo configuration, right?

The only reason I ask is I believe in ProTools I can send from a mono track via a mono send to a stereo Aux and the signal from P&M (or any other plug-in) plays out in stereo.

Is this what you are doing and the return is in Mono?

Or

Is it when you insert a stereo P&M on the SAME channel that has a mono source playing back?

In ProTools I believe that is not allowed or at least I haven't tired it, (old engineering habits die slowly)

Please get back to me to clarify this.

Best Regards,

Nick

Hi Nick,

it's happening when I insert a 'mono>stereo' plugin on a mono channel (Logic allows this when the output from the channel is stereo) and from a mono send to a plugin on a stereo Aux bus.

Hope that makes sense

Cheers

Geoff

[Nick]

Hi Nick,

it's happening when I insert a 'mono>stereo' plugin on a mono channel (Logic allows this when the output from the channel is stereo) and from a mono send to a plugin on a stereo Aux bus.

Hope that makes sense

Cheers

Geoff

Hello Geoff,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I will have to check up with our developers about why the problem in the 'mono>stereo' that Logic allows is happening.

Got a question, are there any other 3rd party plug-ins that have the same behaviour?

The Logic generic plug-ins might have an extra bit of code to tell them how to behave in this 'mono>stereo' situation.

Now from a mono send to a plugin on a stereo Aux bus, this is really strange, because when a plug-in is called up on a stereo track the fact it is stereo means the plug-in cannot help but be stereo. And you still get a "mono" signal? Is it centred, or just left or just right?

Earlier in the thread you said The 'Stereo' version of Echoflex however works as intended. is that still true with a "mono" source fed to the stereo Aux return?

The more info I have the quicker we can get this solved.

Thanks for your input.

Kind Regards,

Nick

[GeoffSix]

Hello Geoff,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I will have to check up with our developers about why the problem in the 'mono>stereo' that Logic allows is happening.

Got a question, are there any other 3rd party plug-ins that have the same behaviour?

The Logic generic plug-ins might have an extra bit of code to tell them how to behave in this 'mono>stereo' situation.

Now from a mono send to a plugin on a stereo Aux bus, this is really strange, because when a plug-in is called up on a stereo track the fact it is stereo means the plug-in cannot help but be stereo. And you still get a "mono" signal? Is it centred, or just left or just right?

Earlier in the thread you said The 'Stereo' version of Echoflex however works as intended. is that still true with a "mono" source fed to the stereo Aux return?

The more info I have the quicker we can get this solved.

Thanks for your input.

Kind Regards,

Nick

Hi Nick,

sorry I couldn't get back sooner...

I've never experienced the 'mono>stereo' problem before with other 3rd party plugins.

Sending from a mono channel to a stereo aux bus with a stereo plugin inserted gives me a centred, mono signal, that actually applies to all the P&M plugins including the Echoplex.

I've even sent a stereo signal to a stereo aux which works fine, but as soon as I switch the stereo signal to mono the plugins behave as above - centred mono.

I hope that makes a bit more sense.

Cheers

Geoff

[Nick]

Hi Nick,

sorry I couldn't get back sooner...

I've never experienced the 'mono>stereo' problem before with other 3rd party plugins.

Sending from a mono channel to a stereo aux bus with a stereo plugin inserted gives me a centred, mono signal, that actually applies to all the P&M plugins including the Echoplex.

I've even sent a stereo signal to a stereo aux which works fine, but as soon as I switch the stereo signal to mono the plugins behave as above - centred mono.

I hope that makes a bit more sense.

Cheers

Geoff

hello Geoff,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I understand it completely now and have sent on the info to our developers to see what they think.

Best Regards,

Nick