P&m Plug-ins Suggestions, Any cool plug-in you'd like us to do ? Post it here ! Options

[DontCrack]

Dear friends,

As stated in our product pages :

Once you have purchased or upgraded to V.I.P. Bundle status, all subsequent plug-ins released for the V.I.P. bundle will be free of charge ! In 2012 we will expand the DontCrack V.I.P. bundle to over 40 plug-ins - and as you are a V.I.P. customer we won’t ask you for any more money.

Therefore, if you have any suggestions about new plug-ins you'd like us to create, please let us know. Keep in mind that DontCrack plug-ins must be simple and quick to use. So don't ask us to create a new DAW or a complete multi effect plug-in. That is not the point...

We look forward to completing our DC V.I.P. Series bundle with nice & easy plug-ins that inspire creativity, not restrain it !

Thanks in advance for your collaboration.

Kind Regards - Peter

[Morpheus]

Hi,

I suggest a panner plugin, like Melda's Autopan or the Pan Station from Audio damage. Something like these.

Cheers
Morpheus

[DCsupport]

Hi Morpheus,

Doesn't this one work for you :
http://store.dontcrack.com/product_info.php?products_id=885

;-)

[Morpheus]

Yes, it's o.k., but I mean a pure stereo panner, without or not based on soundeffects like tremolo or so on.....you know?

Regards

[Wurst Werner]

Since I use my DAW rig for mixing live concerts with SAC (softwareaudioconsole), I would like to see something really simple:

A Tap Delay with a dedicated tap button! Nowadays there are billions of delay/echo plugins available. Most of them can do sophisticated things like: F.e. Ping pong, rhythmic delay patterns, inverse dealy and so on. But there a only very few tap-able (by mouse clicking) delays out there! The sync-option is nothing you can use in a live scenario, a simple tap button would do the trick. Maybe add sweepable a hi- and low-cut to it. And it would be really cool, if you could add a simple one-knob overdrive/distortion feature to this plugin. Distorted delays are quite "hipp" in modern rock mixes. So this would be three knobs in total.
1. Hi Cut
2. Low Cut
3. Overdrive

and one Tap Button. That's it. I'm quite sure, there are lot of live sound techs out there, that would really appreciate a plugin like that. Even if you don't use SAC, there are vst-host out there (f.e. the "live-professor": http://ifoundasound.com/?page_id=8 ), that can replace a lot of common outboard gear needed for mixing concerts. The "poor mans Waves Multirack" ( http://www.waveslive.com/html/multirack.aspx ) as one may say

Christian

[DontCrack]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for this great suggestion ! We'll discuss this ASAP.

Kind Regards - Peter

[lobsterinn]

ideas for future DC plugs:

-bit crusher / lo-fi plugin
-spring reverb
-speaker simulator
-models of specific distortion pedals (i.e. Big Muff, Pro Co Rat, Ibanez Tube Screamer, etc.)
-"tilt' EQ
-Electro-Harmonix Memory Man
-pitch shifting delay
-vocoder

[Morpheus]

An expander and perhaps a frequence shifter or a granular pitch shifter?

Cheers
Morpheus

[DontCrack]

Thanks guys,

All of these sound great and we will start evaluating asap.

Kind Regards - Peter

[vic_france]

I'd like to see a collection of "maintenance tools".. e.g. Denoiser, Declicker etc.
A De-Esser would be nice too.
But one plugin I would love to have (and I have so far never found a way to achieve this via one single plugin,.. it usually involves a lot of delicate handling), is .. a "De-Popper"...
You have a great vocal track (no possibility of re-recording it), but the singer didn't use a pop shield.
Now, build us a "virtual pop shield" that works like "the morning after pill", and I shall love you forever!

[FrankydT]

+1 for the panner-balancer.
Especially a good MONO panner. Only Pro Tools offers a +/- 100 range-resolution panner. (I work in Logic Pro)
And I can't simply find just 1 mono pan plugin around.
It would save me.

[DontCrack]

We are working on all suggestions that have been posted above. Really cool ones too !

The good news is that we should have a new version tomorrow or thursday at the latest. It wont be 1.0.2 but 1.2. Ain't that good food to speculate...

All the best - Peter

[lobsterinn]

We are working on all suggestions that have been posted above. Really cool ones too !

The good news is that we should have a new version tomorrow or thursday at the latest. It wont be 1.0.2 but 1.2. Ain't that good food to speculate...

All the best - Peter

Huh? Updated algorithms? Additional plugs coming? Free tacos? World peace?

I need to know!

[DontCrack]

Huh? Updated algorithms? Additional plugs coming? Free tacos? World peace?

I need to know!

Gees I could go for free tacos and world piece

We won't keep the suspense for too long. We're aaaaaaaaalmost there...

Cheers - Peter

[GabrieleStefanin...]

Two new plug-in in 1.2? :

- DC MONSTER BOOST


- DC DEGRADIATOR


We want NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

[rogerking]

Just bought the collection - great value as a bundle and some really nice individual plugs in there. What's missing, and hard to find anywhere, is some genuine multichannel dynamics. The compressors are particularly good, I think - would love to have them available for 5.1 mix compression or drum busses.

[DontCrack]

Two new plug-in in 1.2? :

- DC MONSTER BOOST


- DC DEGRADIATOR


We want NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

It's THEEEEEEEEEEERE !!!!!!

http://forums.dontcrack.com/index.php?showtopic=8132

Enjoy !

[DontCrack]

Just bought the collection - great value as a bundle and some really nice individual plugs in there. What's missing, and hard to find anywhere, is some genuine multichannel dynamics. The compressors are particularly good, I think - would love to have them available for 5.1 mix compression or drum busses.

Hi rogerking,

That is good food for the mind... We'll talk our devs into that !

Thanks for the kind words and the useful comment. We'll try to follow-up on that.

Kind Regards - Peter

[vic_france]

I'd really appreciate a decent Leslie cabinet.
There are already some very good ones out there (e.g. the one in AmpliTube 3), but they all involve loading some large plugin (Amplitube 3, Guitar Rig 4+ etc) or loading an actual virtual B3 as an FX. The Dont Crack ethic of "one plugin for one job" would be perfect for this .

[mojoboxx]

Hi Peter,
kudos for being so fast in reacting to us DC-plug-in users' suggestions.
Always nice to know that one is not talking into the deep black void.

Anyways, here's my two cents:

The DC-Retro Equaliser could use a low cut filter IMHO, so that you don't have to use up the nice low band controls for it.
How about two push buttons to the left of the V.U., one with "40 Hz" cut when pushed, the other with "80 Hz" and pushing
both together would give you... "150 Hz"! (Did I do my math? No waaay!)

It would keep the simplicity of the GUI and the whole concept intact, but would free up a whole band of EQ.
I photoshopped that into the original, like so: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25038534/DC-RetroLowCut.jpg

One plug-in that could use additional pizzazz is the Beatles' EQ (DC brightness).
Yes, the 2.8 Hz - 3.5 Hz - 10 Hz peak boost/cut was what they used. BUT, to my knowledge, this was
an addition to what they had in the EMI mixing console, namely a 100 Hz shelf cut/boost
and a 10 kHz shelf/5 kHz peak boost.
...there is space for one smaller pot each left and right to the big knob - again, totally in keeping
the looks and easy layout of the original. I would buy the improved version!!!

Thanks for listening to my babble.
Best, mojoboxx

[DontCrack]

Hey mojoboxx,

That sure is great food for the mind ! We are working on these suggestions and hope these will shortly see the day...

Thanks and all the best - Peter

[folkfreak]

+1 for restauration plugins like a (useable) denoiser, a declicker and decrackler. I don't think it is possible, but it would be great If we could get a hint if they are coming within the introprice period...

Alex

[optofonik]

Hi Peter,
kudos for being so fast in reacting to us DC-plug-in users' suggestions.
Always nice to know that one is not talking into the deep black void.

Anyways, here's my two cents:

The DC-Retro Equaliser could use a low cut filter IMHO, so that you don't have to use up the nice low band controls for it.
How about two push buttons to the left of the V.U., one with "40 Hz" cut when pushed, the other with "80 Hz" and pushing
both together would give you... "150 Hz"! (Did I do my math? No waaay!)

It would keep the simplicity of the GUI and the whole concept intact, but would free up a whole band of EQ.
I photoshopped that into the original, like so: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25038534/DC-RetroLowCut.jpg

One plug-in that could use additional pizzazz is the Beatles' EQ (DC brightness).
Yes, the 2.8 Hz - 3.5 Hz - 10 Hz peak boost/cut was what they used. BUT, to my knowledge, this was
an addition to what they had in the EMI mixing console, namely a 100 Hz shelf cut/boost
and a 10 kHz shelf/5 kHz peak boost.
...there is space for one smaller pot each left and right to the big knob - again, totally in keeping
the looks and easy layout of the original. I would buy the improved version!!!

Thanks for listening to my babble.
Best, mojoboxx

+1

[j.mayr]

I think the effects sound cool & are fast and easy to use - fine.
EQ´s & compressors are already available in every possible flavour - so I think it´s a waste of time to build more....
. what´s definitely missing is automation/midi capability!!!!!!!!
for further development I´d like to see:
. tube leslie simulation, syncable and fast/slow/brake switch (midi!!!), amp controlls
. a good wah wah pedal - like the fulltone clyde deluxe - that doesn´t click(step) when the pedal moves fast (also midi controlled)
. simulation of the digitech whammy pedal
. a few more cool echo units (like memory man deluxe, binsonette, space echo, tc 2290.....)
. something like the moogerfooger pedals
. tc 1210 chorus/flanger

looking forward to new developments

best regards
joerg

[donreynolds]

like the plugs Peter. Very easy to use and some of them have some really interesting preset sounds. I have just bought them and will be looking forward to the next series of plugs.

Do you have any plans on making a killer vocal rider? That would be awesome!

Thanks for the nice series,

Don Reynolds

[ramadev]

+1 for a de-esser. Hopefully this is already in progress?

Great sounding plugs, thank you for making them available!

[SmeeNZ]

A couple of pluggins I like to use you might consider:

Reapers ReaGate: Very nice plug, but the main thing I use this for is the MIDI triggering. You can send MIDI notes when the gate opens. Perfect for replacing drum elements (kick, snare etc).

VarietyOfSound DensityMK11: Bus compressor. Kinda like a 1176, but not really. Just something big and transparent that like the Density sounds better the more you crank it. Omg I love that comp haha. Stillwell Audio also has one that sounds amazing, but I cant get the UI through my head, its crazy (someone mentioned it looks like the dash in his Nissan Maxima haha)

What about a range of plugs that really focus in on certain instruments and offers 3 or 4 knobs of options to tweak. Much like the Waves signature range or perhaps the Toontracks EZmix?! I've tried both and found them to be handy little tools.

Couple of ideas for the pile for ya. Keep up the great work. Really digging the VIP range so far.

[mojoboxx]

Hi, some may say I have too much spare time at my hands...

Agreed, so here's the photoshopped GUI of the improved DC-Brightness (aka Beatles Abbey Road EQ) I was talking about in a previous mail:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25038534/AbbeyRoad-EQ.jpg

The 10 kHz shelf cut and 5 kHz peak boost on the right side knob may seem positively odd, but that was what was available on EMI's REDD-Console.
Of all the plug-ins dealing with the subject, this would be the one to REALLY offer what those lovely Liverpool lads had!

Best, mojoboxx

[Medienhexer]

Hi

Great suggestions so far. I'd like to add:
- rhythmical gate (pattern gate, stutter gate, trance gate, whatever you'd like to call it). The MOTU Digital Performer has one which is quite nice
- Autofilter (Which reacts to the volume of your signal, see Logic Pro for example).
- Autowah with resonance filter
- Bass-Synth effect (see Boss Bass-Synth effects pedal) which is triggered by the audio signal
- comb filter with resonance, ring modulation and metalize parameters for robot voices, crazy drums and aetherial pad sounds
- Fuzz (different characteristics, plus Octaver on/off)
- A noise gate with a switch that allows you to activate a LoFi on/off sound like that spooky effect in the Cosmonaut Voice? plugin for Pro Tools
- Phase shifting effect that allows you to create pseudo-surround effects

[grahamdwc]

Hi Peter and Co.
I was thinking over the weekend about what ya'll could come up with next.
And i was thinking it would be really nice if there was a nice Mono to Stereo Plugin (Pseudo Stereo effect) in the VIP Series.

Regards,
Graham

[Morpheus]

Medienhexer:
Hi

Great suggestions so far. I'd like to add:
- rhythmical gate (pattern gate, stutter gate, trance gate, whatever you'd like to call it).



+1 Sounds good

Regards

This post has been edited by Morpheus: Oct 10 2011, 06:19 PM

[MKk]

A stereo width plugin could be cool. A big knob that would move the L or the R channel(adjustable?) a few ms forward, an Lp/HP/BP filter and a dry/wet knob. Something like the Waves doubler only cleaner and simpler (the waves doubler has at least 6.7ms delay).

What I´m thinking is a tool for something like backing vocals if I dont have the takes to pan it manually. This could be a simple and clean approach to something many people use frequently.

Also, an additional Mono maker knob (which adjusts the frequency the mono starts in the low end) would be cool with

This post has been edited by MKk: Oct 13 2011, 11:33 AM

[Medienhexer]

Oh and one suggestion concerning the Mac installer:

Please add a "select all" button. It might be okay to select 22 plugins one at a time, but the closer we get to 40something, the more likely severe injuries from the clicking-strain will become.

[Medienhexer]

Also, an additional Mono maker knob (which adjusts the frequency the mono starts in the low end) would be cool with

YES! I've heard the difference between bass panned in the center and no bass in center but distributed to the far outer sides. I didn't think this possible but there is such thing. I think a M/S processing could do that. So maybe a frequency-selective stereo width effect? Say, a band pass to select a frequency range and then a width control?

Maybe also have a look at this Stereo width compressor effect by Crysonic. They never delivered in terms of stability and performance for me but the idea is quite ingenius. Don't compress the dynamics but the stereo width!

[vic_france]

Oh and one suggestion concerning the Mac installer:

Please add a "select all" button. It might be okay to select 22 plugins one at a time, but the closer we get to 40something, the more likely severe injuries from the clicking-strain will become.

+1 from me too.. especially if installing VST and AU and RTAS.. that's a lot of checkboxes!

[mojoboxx]

Hi, I have been using the DC Echoflex a lot lately. It's my go-to delay plug in.
So, "all's well that sounds well?" Not quite. Frankly, the order of the control knobs is somewhat irritating, IMHO.

Me thinks that the huge knobs should be labeled ECHO TIME - SUSTAIN - MIX - OUT and the small knobs top left
and right should be TONE and VARIATION. Looka here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25038534/DC-EchoflexKnobs.jpg

Why?
Because that would set the focus on the major controls that are essential to a delay and make the additional stuff less prominent - after all, a delay would still be a delay without a tone or flutter control, but not without TIME, REPEAT (=SUSTAIN), MIX and OUT.

It also would have the nice side effect of making these important controls easier to fine tune as the knobs are bigger :-)
Just my two cents...

Best,
mojoboxx

[optofonik]

+1 for restauration plugins like a (useable) denoiser, a declicker and decrackler. I don't think it is possible, but it would be great If we could get a hint if they are coming within the introprice period...

Alex

+1

A collection similar to (but better, of course) the Waves restoration collection of plugs seems like an essential for a comprehensive plugin suite. Until hiss, pops, clicks, and other nasties have been eliminated from the world no DAW is safe. Can I vote more than once for this?

Lobsterinn mentioned a spring reverb that I also think would be great and is in keeping with FX that can have simple interfaces. Maybe include a randomized "accidentally whacked the box" button just for fun.

Also, Medienhexer mentioned a, "comb filter with resonance, ring modulation and metalize parameters for robot voices, crazy drums and aetherial pad sounds", and, "Phase shifting effect that allows you to create pseudo-surround effects", that both sound like winners.

I think Medienhexer is on to something even bigger, however. With the inclusion of a restoration suite and maybe multi-band dyanamics your bundle would then cover more than enough bread and butter processing and standard FX (imo, of course). Perhaps what could further differentiate DC from other devs would be to begin concentrating on a few esoteric FX in the spirit of GRM tools.

I mean, how many straight-ahead flavors of distortion, filter, and time domain plugs do we need?

I'm just sayin'.

This post has been edited by optofonik: Dec 19 2011, 08:19 PM

[Fytr41]

Hello. I am really using these plugins in a lot of my productions and on top of everyone else's excellent suggestions:
I would like a Mid/Side encoder and decoder.
I would like to be able to sidechain/key input all of the current plugins.
For something different I would like a voice to midi converter.

Cheers,
Colin.

[F4LLOUT5HELTER]

First I must say that I disagree with most of the suggestions here. The spirit of the V.I.P. bundle seems to be classic analog emulations of compressors, eq and modulation and enhancers.

I would like to see a:
Neve 33609 emulation for buss compression.

Russian Big Muff Pi guitar pedal. The best sounding Big Muff IMO and never emulated.

Amp Head and Cabinet simulator. Please keep the gui scheme though because I hate the speaker looking plugs. It should look like a hardware amp simulator, cause that's what it really is anyways.

Chandler Limited Germanium Compressor. I love the EMI sounding hardware.

DBX 106Vu

Channel Strip with selectable preamp saturation to VCA clean compressor with HP filter, to sweet Eq (I'm thinking NightEq aka Maag Eq4) to limiter for overs.

The bundle is pretty complete IMO. I think of it as UAD for the hardware impaired.

[Toon]

Good sugestion!!
So Plug&Mix devolpers,when can we expect some new plugins for us VIP buyers/users?

[Toon]

Quit around here...........

Are there even new plugins coming or is this it?

[DontCrack]

Good sugestion!!
So Plug&Mix devolpers,when can we expect some new plugins for us VIP buyers/users?

There on the way... Give us just a little more time for a hot FREE upgrade

Thanks - Peter

[Toon]

Thx Peter!!

Good to hear.
I love using the plugins.nice and easy controls.
quick results,good stuff!!

[grahamdwc]

Hi Peter not sure if its been asked for but how's about a "tilt" type eq plugin. I think it would fit well in DC range.

Graham

[Medienhexer]

Is it too late to suggest a vintage Vocoder?

I know there's one in Logic and then there's... Not much, really. I predict the second coming of the vocoding if only someone got it right. Just give me a side chain input to feed my modulation signal and let the vocoder vocode the channel I insert it into.

And then give me some basic parameters and the iconic vintage sounds. If you want to go crazy, add something more modern as an additional mode.

Looking forward to the upcoming update

[Medienhexer]

Oh and the obvious one these days - a console emulation which is easy to use. Don't really need any more saturation, I think. Just the cross talk / cross modulation part. I'm really tempted by the current Waves NLS pricing and you could relieve me and possibly others from those urges :-)

[optofonik]

... I would like to be able to sidechain/key input all of the current plugins....


Cheers,
Colin.

+++1

[eric]

+++1

On the todo list ;-)

[riteshreet]

Nowadays there are millions of delay/echo plugins available. Most of them can do sophisticated things, But one plugin I would like to share with you is a "De-Popper".

This post has been edited by riteshreet: Nov 6 2012, 10:24 AM

[Davoe]

A light-weight CPU usage plug-in similar to:

FreeG

http://www.sonalksis.com/freeg.htm

Primary objective would be light CPU usage so it can go on every channel of very high track count sessions, and comply with Automap for hardware control.

I realize if you stick with your GUI the meter won't be able to perform the same level of detail, but that's not what I'm after. I don't think Sonalksis will be making an AAX version of this, and I currently use FreeG and Automap on every channel as an alternate mode of mixing for high track count post-production sessions, as opposed to the Pro Tools channel faders.

Automap has announced that AAX support is coming, and thankfully you also do AAX.

Features of it I'd say should be:

- Big knob should be the fader, that drops to infinity as well as +12
- a smaller knob "Trim" (critical in preserving a previous pass move but just wanting to adjust overall level)
- Pan knob (that pans stereo as well as mono sources)
- Flip L & R

Optional:

- MS Decoder

Your plug ins work very well with Automap, especially since there are so few controls everything fits easily on one page.

http://us.novationmusic.com/software/automap

This post has been edited by Davoe: Dec 21 2012, 07:42 PM

[audio-pervert]

Hi all, first post so I think I'll add my biggest request for a native plugin that I've wanted for many years and just maybe DC can can be the first and only dev to listen, seeing as they have listened to many of the requests posted in this thread already, and also I think it fits the P&M ethos perfectly! A very simple but very accurate Moog 4-pole ladder filter? No bells No whistles,just a well emulated Moog Low Pass Filter. Please

[cyphersuit]

I would love a trancegate. nomad maga has one, the tough thing would be to supply the tg with less gui space...

[MARIU5]

Quick suggestions : The Electro Optical comp needs a mix knob and a x2 or x4 sidechain freq switch to get more hi pass frequency options, very useful when mixing vocals or drums.

The Echo Flex needs a better ping pong delay, it's ok in stereo but when using the ping pong function the left tap is a lot louder, it would be nice to have the second right tap as loud as the first one, otherwise the left channel appears louder all the time, also it would be cool to have the option to have the first tap start on the right channel too, and of course a reverse delay effect ...

[DontCrack]

Hi all, first post so I think I'll add my biggest request for a native plugin that I've wanted for many years and just maybe DC can can be the first and only dev to listen, seeing as they have listened to many of the requests posted in this thread already, and also I think it fits the P&M ethos perfectly! A very simple but very accurate Moog 4-pole ladder filter? No bells No whistles,just a well emulated Moog Low Pass Filter. Please

Hello audio-pervert,

Great suggestion, I will pass it on to the developers, fits right in with the concept of Plug &Mix

Best regards,

Eric

[DontCrack]

I would love a trancegate. nomad maga has one, the tough thing would be to supply the tg with less gui space...

hello cyphersuit,

A noise-gate is on the developers list of things to do right now. it won't be long to wait.

[DontCrack]

Quick suggestions : The Electro Optical comp needs a mix knob and a x2 or x4 sidechain freq switch to get more hi pass frequency options, very useful when mixing vocals or drums.

The Echo Flex needs a better ping pong delay, it's ok in stereo but when using the ping pong function the left tap is a lot louder, it would be nice to have the second right tap as loud as the first one, otherwise the left channel appears louder all the time, also it would be cool to have the option to have the first tap start on the right channel too, and of course a reverse delay effect ...

Hello Marius,

The "Less-More" knob does function as a "Mix" knob as the less you have the drier the signal is, when you add "more" there is more of the "wet" or the limiting function.

Hadn't noticed the difference in level in the ping-pong as I use it a lot in mono myself, I guess the devs thought that each repeat should lose level as the it jumps from left to right while it decays. You're right that the right should hit as hard as the left to establish the stereo on the first repeat. I'll pass it on.

[DontCrack]

Quick suggestions : The Electro Optical comp needs a mix knob and a x2 or x4 sidechain freq switch to get more hi pass frequency options, very useful when mixing vocals or drums.

The Echo Flex needs a better ping pong delay, it's ok in stereo but when using the ping pong function the left tap is a lot louder, it would be nice to have the second right tap as loud as the first one, otherwise the left channel appears louder all the time, also it would be cool to have the option to have the first tap start on the right channel too, and of course a reverse delay effect ...

Hello MARIU5,

Almost missed the side chain comment, yes it is very useful and something that a lot of people are using right now.
I will add it to the developer's "must do" list.

[audio-pervert]

Hello audio-pervert,

Great suggestion, I will pass it on to the developers, fits right in with the concept of Plug &Mix

Best regards,

Eric

Thanks Eric for the reply. I am one of the lucky 4200+ people how took part in the exellent and very much appreciated P&M Group Buy and look foward to future products including my suggestion. Once again, thanks for the reply and keep up the great work. Kind Regards Jay

[DontCrack]

Thanks Eric for the reply. I am one of the lucky 4200+ people how took part in the exellent and very much appreciated P&M Group Buy and look foward to future products including my suggestion. Once again, thanks for the reply and keep up the great work. Kind Regards Jay

Hi Jay,

Thanks for the kind words and your business of course :-)

New plugs are on the way but not yet a Moog filter. I do think it is a great idea and have past this along to the devs...

BR - Peter

[MARIU5]

yay, the ping pong is fixed now ! I'm liking it a lot more now, thanks for listening

[DontCrack]

yay, the ping pong is fixed now ! I'm liking it a lot more now, thanks for listening

Thank you Marius for reporting.

Cheers - Peter

[vic_france]

A noise-gate is on the developers list of things to do right now. it won't be long to wait.

I was just re-reading this topic, to see if a Noise Gate (i.e. "expander"-type, rather than "rhythmic gater") was already on the request list.
Not quite sure which of those two you were referring to as being already no the "to do list" (hopefully, both? )

[Nick]

I was just re-reading this topic, to see if a Noise Gate (i.e. "expander"-type, rather than "rhythmic gater") was already on the request list.
Not quite sure which of those two you were referring to as being already no the "to do list" (hopefully, both? )

Hello vic_france,

If this is a definition of the tools you want to see then yes they are on the "to do list".

Expander/Noise Gate Filter
An expander increases the dynamic range of an audio signal by attenuating (reducing the gain of) the signal when it drops below a certain level (the threshold). This has the effect of making relatively quiet portions of the audio signal even more quiet proportionally, so the difference between the loud and quiet parts of the audio are increased.

An expander makes quieter portions of audio even quieter by decreasing the audio level if it drops below a specified level. The lower a level is relative to the specified audio level threshold, the more it is decreased, depending on the Ratio setting. An expander with a very high ratio value is called a noise gate and is used to make the level of all sound below the specified audio level threshold as close to silence as possible.

Best Regards,

Nick

[vic_france]

Hi Nick,
I was referring to cyphersuit's request..

I would love a trancegate. nomad maga has one, the tough thing would be to supply the tg with less gui space...

to which Peter replied..

hello cyphersuit,

A noise-gate is on the developers list of things to do right now. it won't be long to wait.

Hence my request for clarification as to what type of gate Peter was referring to .

My own request is indeed for a true noise gate (as you described).. so far absent from the current Dynamics category of P&M plugins.

A Trance Gate is more akin to a step sequencer in its result.. and would indeed be a welcome addition also .

This post has been edited by vic_france: May 21 2013, 04:35 PM

[Nick]

Hi Nick,
I was referring to cyphersuit's request..
to which Peter replied..



Hence my request for clarification as to what type of gate Peter was referring to .

My own request is indeed for a true noise gate (as you described).. so far absent from the current Dynamics category of P&M plugins.

A Trance Gate is more akin to a step sequencer in its result.. and would indeed be a welcome addition also .

Hello vic_france,

A Trance Gate would be a stepped gate that follows the tempo right?

Best Regards,

Nick

[vic_france]

Hello vic_france,

A Trance Gate would be a stepped gate that follows the tempo right?

Best Regards,

Nick

Yes, ideally with each step controllable both in level and in length (i.e. variable percentage of the step itself, but also with possibility of tying to the next step).
(I reply, but the TranceGate was really cyphersuit's request, not my own )

[Nick]

Yes, ideally with each step controllable both in level and in length (i.e. variable percentage of the step itself, but also with possibility of tying to the next step).
(I reply, but the TranceGate was really cyphersuit's request, not my own )

Hello vic_france,

I will pass it along to the developers to see how easy it would be for them to build it in.

The trick is to incorporate tiny fades as digital hates cutting audio that isn't at a zero crossing point, gives us those nice little audible clicks that most people don't appreciate at all.

Best Regards,

Nick

[MARIU5]

hey guys please include a mix control in the cool vibe plug in ... it would add some extra flexibility to an already cool effect.

[Nick]

hey guys please include a mix control in the cool vibe plug in ... it would add some extra flexibility to an already cool effect.

Hello MARIU5,

I will pass on the suggestion to the developers, in the mean time there is always the option of running it as a send instead of an insert and blending the amount of the Cool Vibe that you need.

Best Regards,

Nick

[MARIU5]

Thank you Nick, I have another sugguestion : A micro pitch shift plug in ! There are very few options out there, the soundtoys micro shift which requires an ilok (UGH) Schwa's CMX (Really great sound BUT 32 bit only, never gets updated) Waves doubler (not a fan of the sound and waves in general) and I think that's about it, the pitch chorus effect is extremely useful on vocals, there is an algorithm in older Lexicon hardware that lets you run two micro pitch shifters per side in stereo for a super lush and thick sound, no one makes this type of effect as far as I know ...

[Nick]

Thank you Nick, I have another sugguestion : A micro pitch shift plug in ! There are very few options out there, the soundtoys micro shift which requires an ilok (UGH) Schwa's CMX (Really great sound BUT 32 bit only, never gets updated) Waves doubler (not a fan of the sound and waves in general) and I think that's about it, the pitch chorus effect is extremely useful on vocals, there is an algorithm in older Lexicon hardware that lets you run two micro pitch shifters per side in stereo for a super lush and thick sound, no one makes this type of effect as far as I know ...

Hello MARIU5,

A great suggestion, I remember that algorithm in older Lexicon hardware, it had lots of great uses when you want to keep the timing tight.

You can do something similar with delays with a slight oscillation but you add a timing offset to the signal, not really great when you want a voice or guitar to stay in the groove.

I will pass the suggestion along to the developers.

All the best,

Nick

[runescapegold666]

I suggest a panner plugin, like Melda's Autopan or the Pan Station from Audio damage. Something like these.
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[Nick]

I suggest a panner plugin, like Melda's Autopan or the Pan Station from Audio damage. Something like these.
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Hello runescapegold666,

Great suggestion, thanks for your input.

Best Regards,

Nick

[mike110492]

I would love to see a spring reverb from you guys in the future!

[DontCrack]

I would love to see a spring reverb from you guys in the future!

Yep, that should see the day pretty shortly.

Thanks

[Medienhexer]

Yep, that should see the day pretty shortly.

Thanks

April-ish shortly?

[Nick]

April-ish shortly?

Hello Medienhexer,

May-ish shortly.

Things are in the final stages.

Best Regards,

Nick

[Medienhexer]

Hello Medienhexer,

May-ish shortly.

Things are in the final stages.

Best Regards,

Nick

Thanks for the update, Nick! You guys have created a phantastic bundle in a very short time. A spring reverb is just what a song I'm currently working on needs

[Nick]

Thanks for the update, Nick! You guys have created a phantastic bundle in a very short time. A spring reverb is just what a song I'm currently working on needs

Hello Medienhexer,

There are another five plug-ins in the final stages, they are pretty cool tools for those people who like to experiment with their sounds as they are all very useful for transforming sound. There isn't a Spring Reverb this time, but it is under development and will be out soon, I think you will really like it.

Best Regards,

Nick

[Carl Kolchak]

Hi Nick,

a couple of suggestions for improvements in your existing plug-ins :

Octaplexer : could we have a 3 pole switch added, giving the options of the regular 2 octaves below (sub-octaves) mode, 1 octave above / 1 octave below mode, and 2 octaves above (would that be sur-octaves?) mode.

Ambiosoniq : could the throw of the graphic EQ faders be extended / enlarged. Whilst the current design is adhering to the general aesthetic principles of P&M, the faders are rather bunched up, which makes them difficult to use when subtle changes are required.

I'm slowly getting used to the oblique naming conventions for some of the plug-ins (that's all part of the charm), and I'm gratful that you've taken the time to tag the plug-ins in terms of functionality, or I'd probably never find some of them in Pro Tools.

Please don't go too way out there with the names of future plug-ins, as I do sometimes find myself hunting around, and auditioning several of your plug-ins, whilst trying to find a specific one which isn't immediately obvious in terms of it's name - that may just be me, but all those minutes add up at the end of the day, and considering the manifesto of Plug & Mix, it's a little ironic that whilst the plug-ins themselves sound fantastic, and help speed up the workflow, finding the right one can slow things down because of something as simple as the plug-in's name.

Love the product though, and really looking forward to the new additions.

Cheers!

[Nick]

Hi Nick,

a couple of suggestions for improvements in your existing plug-ins :

Octaplexer : could we have a 3 pole switch added, giving the options of the regular 2 octaves below (sub-octaves) mode, 1 octave above / 1 octave below mode, and 2 octaves above (would that be sur-octaves?) mode.

Ambiosoniq : could the throw of the graphic EQ faders be extended / enlarged. Whilst the current design is adhering to the general aesthetic principles of P&M, the faders are rather bunched up, which makes them difficult to use when subtle changes are required.

I'm slowly getting used to the oblique naming conventions for some of the plug-ins (that's all part of the charm), and I'm gratful that you've taken the time to tag the plug-ins in terms of functionality, or I'd probably never find some of them in Pro Tools.

Please don't go too way out there with the names of future plug-ins, as I do sometimes find myself hunting around, and auditioning several of your plug-ins, whilst trying to find a specific one which isn't immediately obvious in terms of it's name - that may just be me, but all those minutes add up at the end of the day, and considering the manifesto of Plug & Mix, it's a little ironic that whilst the plug-ins themselves sound fantastic, and help speed up the workflow, finding the right one can slow things down because of something as simple as the plug-in's name.

Love the product though, and really looking forward to the new additions.

Cheers!

Hello Carl,

With the Octaplexer, we thought that having the 2 octave spread would be enough as a lot of the instruments that would be treated would into go into a region where they would be conflicting with those all important Bass Drums and Bass guitars and synths. Going down another octave would also put a lot of energy into the sub-sonic range that can cause compressors to react in a way that causes all kinds of weird behaviour and should be filtered out. Most of the instruments we all use are in the lower end of the spectrum and would fall into this category.

Yes, Ambiosoniq has a tight arrangement of its faders, could suggest automating them with your DAW? I sometimes do this with other plug-ins that have a busy interface, using the DAW interface to enlarge the parameter in question until it is on a large scale that I could do microscopic edit if I want to, listen back and adjust till its exactly what I want. I'll pass your suggestion to see if there is any way to make it more comfortable.

With ProTools now there is a way of grouping the effects according to their "family" EQs, compressors, etc on the inserts, maybe your DAW does this as well as it really helps sorting out your plug-ins when you have a lot. So when you have discovered what they do you can put them a "family" with all the similar "brothers" and "sisters".

The good news is that there are another five coming very very soon Stay tuned.

Best Regards,

Nick

[Carl Kolchak]

Hello Carl,

With the Octaplexer, we thought that having the 2 octave spread would be enough as a lot of the instruments that would be treated would into go into a region where they would be conflicting with those all important Bass Drums and Bass guitars and synths. Going down another octave would also put a lot of energy into the sub-sonic range that can cause compressors to react in a way that causes all kinds of weird behaviour and should be filtered out. Most of the instruments we all use are in the lower end of the spectrum and would fall into this category.

Yes, Ambiosoniq has a tight arrangement of its faders, could suggest automating them with your DAW? I sometimes do this with other plug-ins that have a busy interface, using the DAW interface to enlarge the parameter in question until it is on a large scale that I could do microscopic edit if I want to, listen back and adjust till its exactly what I want. I'll pass your suggestion to see if there is any way to make it more comfortable.

With ProTools now there is a way of grouping the effects according to their "family" EQs, compressors, etc on the inserts, maybe your DAW does this as well as it really helps sorting out your plug-ins when you have a lot. So when you have discovered what they do you can put them a "family" with all the similar "brothers" and "sisters".

The good news is that there are another five coming very very soon Stay tuned.

Best Regards,

Nick

Hi Nick,

with regards to Octaplexer, I was suggesting adding two octaves above the input signal (not another two octaves below the existing sub-octaves).

For exactly the reasons you stated, it can be really useful (on occasion) to take a bass instrument, and generate higher octaves above the input signal.

Often you'll get guitarists using octave dividers to create the impression of a doubled up bass line. What I'm suggesting would be the exact opposite - a bassist adding upper octaves to create the impression of a lead line.



I'll take a look at your suggestion for using automation lanes to adjust the controls of Ambiosoniq .

Generally I prefer to dial the sound in, before adding automation, as it can upset the workflow a little downstream, and I also had a feeling that in the past I was automating a P&M plug-in (can't remember which right now) and the units displayed in the automation lane bore no relation to the units used on the plug-in GUI - like one was in dB, and the other was in percentages - which made things a little tricky.


I am using Pro Tools, and as I mentioned, your plug-ins are sorted by category, as well as manufacturer, which has certainly helped me track down some of the more obliquely named plug-ins - I just found that some of the names were not immediately obvious as to the plug-in's function, or one did what you expected another to do, going by name alone (the number of times I've pulled up Liquid Air Q, when I was looking for Ambiosoniq, or I've been hunting around the amp simulations, unable to find the Vox simulator, because it's name does not adhere to the convention established by your other three amp sims, and it's much further down the list of plug-ins available).

I totally get where the names come from, or how they are derived, and it's certainly part of the charm.

Like I said, It's probably just me being a bit thick at times, but I feel it definitely is a case of having to learn the P&M plugs by names, as much as function - and I feel that slightly goes against your original ethos.

If perhaps there were additional meta-data / tags that could be included "behind the scenes", so that for example, all your amp simulations appear next to each other in the plug-in list (whether in the manufacturer list, or the category lists), and likewise with your EQ's and dynamics, rather than being scattered around alphabetically - which relies on numbskulls like myself actually remembering the names (though I am getting there).

It's not so much a problem when manufacturers only have a handful of plug-ins to choose from, but as we're now looking at 45 plug-ins - only a handful of which I use on every mix, the others being pulled up as and when the situation demands - that's a lot of names to remember.

Still, I really can't wait to get my hands on those five new plug-ins!

Cheers!

[Nick]

Hi Nick,

with regards to Octaplexer, I was suggesting adding two octaves above the input signal (not another two octaves below the existing sub-octaves).

For exactly the reasons you stated, it can be really useful (on occasion) to take a bass instrument, and generate higher octaves above the input signal.

Often you'll get guitarists using octave dividers to create the impression of a doubled up bass line. What I'm suggesting would be the exact opposite - a bassist adding upper octaves to create the impression of a lead line.



I'll take a look at your suggestion for using automation lanes to adjust the controls of Ambiosoniq .

Generally I prefer to dial the sound in, before adding automation, as it can upset the workflow a little downstream, and I also had a feeling that in the past I was automating a P&M plug-in (can't remember which right now) and the units displayed in the automation lane bore no relation to the units used on the plug-in GUI - like one was in dB, and the other was in percentages - which made things a little tricky.


I am using Pro Tools, and as I mentioned, your plug-ins are sorted by category, as well as manufacturer, which has certainly helped me track down some of the more obliquely named plug-ins - I just found that some of the names were not immediately obvious as to the plug-in's function, or one did what you expected another to do, going by name alone (the number of times I've pulled up Liquid Air Q, when I was looking for Ambiosoniq, or I've been hunting around the amp simulations, unable to find the Vox simulator, because it's name does not adhere to the convention established by your other three amp sims, and it's much further down the list of plug-ins available).

I totally get where the names come from, or how they are derived, and it's certainly part of the charm.

Like I said, It's probably just me being a bit thick at times, but I feel it definitely is a case of having to learn the P&M plugs by names, as much as function - and I feel that slightly goes against your original ethos.

If perhaps there were additional meta-data / tags that could be included "behind the scenes", so that for example, all your amp simulations appear next to each other in the plug-in list (whether in the manufacturer list, or the category lists), and likewise with your EQ's and dynamics, rather than being scattered around alphabetically - which relies on numbskulls like myself actually remembering the names (though I am getting there).

It's not so much a problem when manufacturers only have a handful of plug-ins to choose from, but as we're now looking at 45 plug-ins - only a handful of which I use on every mix, the others being pulled up as and when the situation demands - that's a lot of names to remember.

Still, I really can't wait to get my hands on those five new plug-ins!

Cheers!

Hello Carl,

As we have a lot to do and responded quickly here I missed the "octaves above". The logic of the plug-in is to add bass not move things up, so I jumped on that.

It is a great idea but it will mean some added development time to pitch shift up rather than just down.

And it is a difficult thing to do and sound "natural" unless you want a strange sounding guitar. have you heard some of the "octavizers" on guitar that give a 12 string sound? Some of them are not very pretty, unless you like "trashy" sounding 12 strings, which can work in certain styles of music.

Strange coincidence, we just sent out a newsletter with the focus on a fantastic pitch shifter by IRCAM LAB that is unbelievably musical. I really thing you should check it out, if you didn't get the newsletter, drop me a line and I will pass on the link where you can try it out until the 10th of June.

With regards to Ambiosoniq, I also prefer to dial the sound in like you, then add automation to correct the details. If there is a different in the naming of the scales dBs become percentage, it is hard for me to know why as I didn't program them, to know if this is P+M problem or ProTools. In the end it all comes down to the sound. Sometimes I close my eyes while adjusting a plug-in to not be influenced by the settings I see in the plug-in and it is a good thing as the settings are at +20db in some cases, but it sounds right for that particular mix or track.

About the names I can see your point even with the sorting one can do with ProTools, I have never looked into whether one can "rename" or "nickname" the plug-ins, but I doubt we can in ProTools so they have an order that corresponds to our usage.
It is a bit late to re-adjust them now and we are going to add to your problem by adding another 5 that have some interesting names as well

All the best,

Nick

[Carl Kolchak]

Cheers Nick, I'll keep an ear out for the IRCAM - although I'm probably not in the market for another timestetch / pitchshift plug-in right now, what with Melodyne, Elastic Audio, and a couple of other tools I have.

To be honest, I don't think I've ever heard a real-time pitch shifting effect that sounds completely "natural" on guitars, it's just an interesting sound / effect in it's own right, to my ears.

If you want to get down with the kids, here's a pretty good example of pitch shifting a Bass guitar up, to give the impression of a regular guitar doubling up :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHBJpCjq50E

Cheers!

[babistrihos]

Hello,
it would be nice if I could control the plugins with an external controller.
I search for learn button for cut-off, resonance etc but there in no such function.
Currently the only way is to make automation with the DAW but that's not live
Very nice plugins, indeed
Thanks

[Nick]

Hello,
it would be nice if I could control the plugins with an external controller.
I search for learn button for cut-off, resonance etc but there in no such function.
Currently the only way is to make automation with the DAW but that's not live
Very nice plugins, indeed
Thanks

Hello babistrihos,

I see what you mean about using them live with a controller.

I will pass on your request to the developers.

Best Regards,

Nick

[Medienhexer]

Hey guys

I'm right now pretty blown away by bx_refinement, maybe that would be something to look into. An enhancer which doesn't sound terribly enhanced but just kind of cleans up the high end, removes resonances and kind of spreads out the high end, making it sound more broad.

Love what we have so far

Cheers!

[Nick]

Hey guys

I'm right now pretty blown away by bx_refinement, maybe that would be something to look into. An enhancer which doesn't sound terribly enhanced but just kind of cleans up the high end, removes resonances and kind of spreads out the high end, making it sound more broad.

Love what we have so far

Cheers!

Hello Medienhexer,

I know what you mean the bx Refinement has been selling well as it does a very good job and stays subtle in doing it. I will tell the developers to take a look as can be demoed easily.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Best Regards,

Nick

[mnmlfrk]

Could you make a version for us poor Logic Users where there's no PM in front of the name?

At the moment i can see PM-...ro Co, PM-...loger
That makes it really hard for me to distinguish what is what

[Mac Money]

How about a Mu-Tron Bi-Phase?

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[spktkpkt]

Gate and Micro Pitch Shift would be great, something like in this plug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCn7oXf8G9k

[Nick]

Gate and Micro Pitch Shift would be great, something like in this plug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCn7oXf8G9k

Hello spktkpkt,

Both a Gate and a Pitch Shifter are high on our list of user requests.

I will pass on your suggestions to our developers.

Thanks for your input.

Best Regards,

Nick

[rcgoday]

Hi there!
A multiband dynamics plugin would be nice.
Some control in the mix is always welcome
Thanks in advance!

[Nick]

Hi there!
A multiband dynamics plugin would be nice.
Some control in the mix is always welcome
Thanks in advance!

Hello rcgoday,

Great suggestion.

I'll pass it on to the development team.

Best Regards,

Nick

[richardsstudio]

Yes an expander/gate/ Hush type unit would be great, I really enjoy your tube amp plug-ins but there is some hiss to deal with afterwards, cheers

[Nick]

Yes an expander/gate/ Hush type unit would be great, I really enjoy your tube amp plug-ins but there is some hiss to deal with afterwards, cheers

Hello richardsstudio,

Yes a gate would be helpful, especially with the guitar amps when the saturation is turned up.

It is on the list.

Best Regards,

Nick

[Pentacheese]

Hi, I suggest an EQ to differently deal Mid/Side and Left/Right

This post has been edited by Pentacheese: Sep 24 2014, 01:02 AM

[Nick]

Hi, I suggest an EQ to differently deal Mid/Side and Left/Right

Hello Pentacheese,

That is a great suggestion, a stereo EQ dealing with Mid/Side and Left/Right.

I guess it would be basically for Mastering?

Best Regards,

Nick

[Pentacheese]

Hello Pentacheese,

That is a great suggestion, a stereo EQ dealing with Mid/Side and Left/Right.

I guess it would be basically for Mastering?

Best Regards,

Nick

Hi Nick,

Basically yes
To give you some examples: EasyQ (Rs-met) or Pro-Q (Fabfilter)
But they are EQ parametric.

Thanks in advance!

[richardsstudio]

Hello richardsstudio,

Yes a gate would be helpful, especially with the guitar amps when the saturation is turned up.

It is on the list.

Best Regards,

Nick

Great I can't wait to see that awesome looking meter jumping around !